Wouldn’t Liberals do better just fighing forthrightly for Single-Payer instead of duplicitous Public Option?

I am proud that my rep did. Even though the UK’s health care among the worst for UHC countries it is still leagues better than the US’s.
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Wouldn’t Conservatives do better to stop blocking national health care with any excuse while thousands more Americans die? Conservatives should move to Rwanda where there is no health insurance.
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libs pretty much lie about their true intentions because all of their intentions lead to one thing full and total communism or socialism and they cant be honest about that because we don’t want that
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Same thing.
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Liberals should move to North Korea where they will be happy.
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I love how you people quote Thomas Jefferson all the time. Jefferson was for small government until he, as President, wanted to do something–like purchase the Louisiana territory from France. Please also check what he said about Christianity, while you’re at it.
I could come up with just as many, and most likely far more, examples of people dying because of private insurance company policies.
If demand hits the roof, doesn’t it show that this was necessary? Isn’t that how capitalism works–supply and demand?
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If you have a problem with the British form of NHS, I suggest you look to improve it by going to the French or Scandinavian forms of health care. Its not the idea, its the way its implemented that makes the difference.
As to some of your scare articles, you can pretty much find the same things in the US, and we don’t have universal coverage now.
We have our share of people who want, or don’t want life support issues now, we have doctors who advise against prolonging the lives of terminal patients with artificial means, and we have families who believe that more could have been done, despite the facts.
When Jefferson was alive medicine was limited to herbs and opium for pain. Germs weren’t known, and people died of infections of all types, there were no antibiotics. He might have a different take on it now. For that matter, in Jefferson’s time, oysters and lobsters were considered poor mans foods, and a diet rich in meat was, by most, considered a sure way to health.
You can’t always go back in time and expect even intelligent men to still sound intelligent about things we have more information on now.
Yes, in fact single payer is the most effiecient means of dealing with health costs, there isn’t any reason on earth the heads of health insurance companies should get over thirty million a year in salary, not to mention paid country club dues and other perks and parachutes. A non-profit government run organization would never have those costs, or the costs of building and maintaining elaborate buildings that are rampant in insurance towns.
The paperwork to the doctors would be vastly simplified, no extra employees would be needed to be expert in the coverages and policies of hundreds of little insurers, as they are now.
A single large insurer would be able to use its size to keep costs down as they do in Europe.
The main problem with single payer, is that it limits the influence that insurance companies can wield with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, and they like their power, and the lawmakers like the company support.
And thats the sad and simple truth, having nothing to do with socialism or communism or any other -ism.
Its all about the greed.
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Sorry things aren’t working out well for you. Here is what we are facing in the US:

45,000 die annually from lack of health care
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE58G6W520090917

Majority of bankruptcy caused by medical bills, even those who had insurance.
http://www.bcsalliance.com/y_debt_medical.html

As many as 98,000 people in the US die from medical error each year.
http://www.ahrq.gov/qual/errback.htm

etc.,etc., etc.

Which is why only a few people are trying to get single-payer health care. All most of us want is a public option insurance, because that is the only thing that will bring the insurance companies to their senses and stop the way they have been abusing Americans for several decades now.

As to demand, I will say the same thing I did in my last answer to you. Rising demand would result in rising supply of health care workers, especially in this economic climate.

And since you didn’t take my advice to google national health care, here, I’ll do it for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care
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Wow. You have done your homework. But facts and information mean nothing to those who support the ‘public’ option. Truth is a low hurdle for liberals. Many (liberals) do not think the public option through to conclusion. In fact - they don’t think any of their ‘value’s’ through to conclusion. They cant, or else they would have to have a different opinion. Like abortion.

Of course the ‘public’ option will disappear. But liberals, infested with corruption and narcissism - will say that its failure does not trump their thoughtfulness to put in in. For other liberals, they know damn well it wont work. It doesn’t matter to them. This is a game to liberals.

Liberalism is narcissistic and sadistic to a level that is mentally ill. Liberalism appeals to ones hunger to satisfy immediate gratification; their ‘I need it NOW’ attitude … and for that reason - their numbers may grow. Sex (anytime anywhere,porn, prostitution), social approval of drug use, abortion, victim hood … all these things satisfy a corrupt character.

This country is in trouble.
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It really doesn’t matter to me, but let’s say Government Health Care is implemented. What that means is that

1. everyone will pay more in taxes to cover it.
2. Payments to doctors will decline meaning many will leave the profession (or practice in another country) and the best and brightest will choose another field to study for - qualified doctor shortages will be guaranteed.
3. Pharmaceutical companies will reduce expenditure in R&D commensurate with the anticipated reduction in government approved drug payments.
4. The ruling class will not be affected; the laws do not apply to Congress.
5. Businesses will simply raise their prices to pay the extra tax and so they will be unaffected.
6. The wealthy will pay the extra tax and then take annual medical vacations to Bermuda, or some similar vacation spot astute enough to see the market for first class health care.
7. Only the poor and middle class will be affected by the reduction in health care quality and availability. Tough luck.
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what part of

46 million people dont have health care

dont you understand
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Yes you are right. Liberals seem to function best when everyone suffers.
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The Public Option is a COMPROMISE with you Conservatives. It puts 40 million people in for-profit, private health insurance, thus controlling the growth in government. You should be thanking us for working with you in this way.

And enough of your "healthscare" horror stories. Here’s the real horror story: 45,000 Americans die every year from poor coverage. There are no stats in any national health system worse than that, and no shortages or lack of choice are worse than that. 45,000 people! That is 15 times worse than 9/11.

Also, Thomas Jefferson did not write that quotation you attribute to him;

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Notes_on_the_State_of_Virginia

(query XVII "Common misquotation")
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http://www.harvardscience.harvard.edu/medicine-health/articles/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-lack-health-coverage